iona-digest Friday, May 21 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 025 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:49:04 -0700 From: Aaron J Edwards Subject: Re: [iona] the new album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ > > I'm glad they are recording the concert, because I can't be there. > But > if they release the concert before the next studio album that would > make > two releases in a row that are live concerts. I'm dying for new Iona > studio album! > Actually, I kind of hope that Iona does not release any new albums for quite sometime. My reasoning is I am broke as it is and all my other favorite artists are realeasing new albums with in the next 3 months. Ah the joys of college life. ;-() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." - Vice President Quayle, 11/30/88 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron J Edwards -- clone316@juno.com -- ICQ# 15041909 < http://members.tripod.com/~clone316 ><\\\> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 05:22:41 -0700 From: Jason Savoie Subject: Re: [iona] the new album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Nic: >I'm glad they are recording the concert, because I can't be there. But >if they release the concert before the next studio album that would make >two releases in a row that are live concerts. I'm dying for new Iona >studio album! I look forward to a new studio album as well. You wouldn't think they would release another live album so soon or before the next studio album. I'm looking forward to a new studio album by the new Iona. And hopefully they'll make it for a weekend to the States next year. ...If war and Y2K hasn't destroyed us. Jason ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:14:14 -0400 From: "Roger W. Jones" Subject: Re: [iona] the new album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Cool, what concert, and does it contain new material or is it another HBS? Either way is fine to me, just give me more IONA!!! Rog Grafix/Roger out, hailing frequencies closed ---===:::><> Engage! "Roger W. Jones" Technical Illustrator NCI Information Systems 757-864-6271 fax: 757-864-6243 ------------------------------=====:::::::::><> Engaged! Psalm 33:3 \\<>< Drummer for Living Word Praise Band (on Roland TD-7 double bass rig) Join the AAA-AA ... American Association Against Acronymn Abuse Collector of Redlines, more valuable to me than gold pressed latinum! IBM stands for I Buy Mac...duh! Jean-Luc Picard "Insurrection", go see it! ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:18:40 -0700 From: "Charles Crossley, Jr." Subject: Re: [iona] the new album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Aaron Edwards said: > My reasoning is I am broke as it is and all my other favorite artists are realeasing new albums with in the next 3 months. Well, I hope you don't mind being so generous to the rest of us as to be even more broke. :) I'm really looking forward to a new Iona album. And yes, college and finances often don't go together very well. Charles Crossley, Jr. Oxnard, CA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:42:48 +0100 From: Martin Dean Subject: Re: [iona] the new album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ My impression was that the RFH concert was being filmed for a video release, which considering the only thing we have seen was the 'Iona' video back, far far back, in the past, is about time. All those people who have not seen Dave lost in a solo, Troy's fingers flying or Jo shimmy will get the chance :-) Martin "The Man In The Coat" Dean Cinema Engineer The Waiting Room webmaster: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/mdean/ The A-Z of Genesis songs: http://members.xoom.com/waitingroom/atoz/ G99: The Genesis Fan Convention. Tickets now on sale!! check out... http://ds.dial.pipex.com/mdean/g99.htm ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:54:24 -0400 From: Michael Phythian Subject: Re: [iona] the new album /concert - for those that didn't know. . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ The concert on Saturday 29th May at the Royal Festival Hall in London, England for those that missed it - there's a number of new pieces to be performed, with orchestral arrangements played by the All Saints Orchestr= a, plus the old band members. Mick ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:55:27 EDT From: Deut28114@aol.com Subject: [iona] Roger's "offending" statement . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ James wrote: >I thought Walter just said this was off topic? >And if you want to discuss why your post shows a rather arrogant approach >and a shallow interpretation of scripture, I'd be happy to discuss it >privately. > >James. I feel the need to post this to the list because of the fact that the last post I recieved made some very condescending comments toward theologically conservative Christians and to leave that negative implication toward those who are theologically conservative would, to me, be tantamount to agreeing with the comment. While I agree that the post was off topic, I DO appreciate the scriptural accuracy of Roger's stance on the subject of homosexuality. With all due respect to those who do not profess Christ on this discussion list, if we are going to talk about scriptural stances on issues, lets remember that Jesus didn't stone the adulterous woman, BUT HE DID tell her to SIN NO MORE. The scriptural stance on homosexuality is not to condone the act or the lifestyle. In fact, it is to oppose the act and the lifestyle, but not to abuse the practicer. I, too, have many homosexual friends, but they don't think I hate them because I disagree with their lifestyle. To imply that theologically conservative (read: literal interpreters of Jesus' commands) are "arrogant" and have a "shallow interpretation of scripture" is to imply that Jesus didn't mean what He said. Maybe a good reading of Dietrich Bonhoeffers "Cost of Discipleship" might be in store. Or maybe simply read about his life or the lives of any of the apostles or early church fathers. I think you will find that they (and, yes, Jesus too) would agree that you don't stone someone living in sin (in this case a homosexual), but that you don't imply that it is an acceptable way of life by not speaking out against the common acceptance of it (which is what this ad would promote by making it appear to be "normal", if you will). That being said, my intention here is not to upset or offend list readers. I beg your humble forgiveness if I have. I am simply passionate about scriptural accuracy and living a truly Christian life by the grace of God. May God truly bless you all! - -John ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:34:43 +0100 (BST) From: James Stewart Subject: Re: [iona] Roger's "offending" statement . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ On Wed 12 May, Deut28114@aol.com wrote: > . _ _ _ > |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com > Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ > _______________ > > James wrote: > > >I thought Walter just said this was off topic? > >And if you want to discuss why your post shows a rather arrogant approach > >and a shallow interpretation of scripture, I'd be happy to discuss it > >privately. > > > >James. > > I feel the need to post this to the list I've responded off list. If anyone wants a copy, let me know. James. - -- James Stewart | The Britlinks | The Phantom Tollbooth james@britlinks.co.uk | http://www.britlinks.co.uk | http://www.tollbooth.org Sixpence None The Richer UK - http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/ ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:39:33 EDT From: Jimgras@aol.com Subject: Re: [iona] Roger's "offending" statement . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ In a message dated 5/12/99 1:03:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Deut28114@aol.com writes: << . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ James wrote: >I thought Walter just said this was off topic? >And if you want to discuss why your post shows a rather arrogant approach >and a shallow interpretation of scripture, I'd be happy to discuss it >privately. > >James. I feel the need to post this to the list because of the fact that the last post I recieved made some very condescending comments toward theologically conservative Christians and to leave that negative implication toward those who are theologically conservative would, to me, be tantamount to agreeing with the comment. While I agree that the post was off topic, I DO appreciate the scriptural accuracy of Roger's stance on the subject of homosexuality. With all due respect to those who do not profess Christ on this discussion list, if we are going to talk about scriptural stances on issues, lets remember that Jesus didn't stone the adulterous woman, BUT HE DID tell her to SIN NO MORE. The scriptural stance on homosexuality is not to condone the act or the lifestyle. In fact, it is to oppose the act and the lifestyle, but not to abuse the practicer. I, too, have many homosexual friends, but they don't think I hate them because I disagree with their lifestyle. To imply that theologically conservative (read: literal interpreters of Jesus' commands) are "arrogant" and have a "shallow interpretation of scripture" is to imply that Jesus didn't mean what He said. Maybe a good reading of Dietrich Bonhoeffers "Cost of Discipleship" might be in store. Or maybe simply read about his life or the lives of any of the apostles or early church fathers. I think you will find that they (and, yes, Jesus too) would agree that you don't stone someone living in sin (in this case a homosexual), but that you don't imply that it is an acceptable way of life by not speaking out against the common acceptance of it (which is what this ad would promote by making it appear to be "normal", if you will). That being said, my intention here is not to upset or offend list readers. I beg your humble forgiveness if I have. I am simply passionate about scriptural accuracy and living a truly Christian life by the grace of God. May God truly bless you all! -John >> Grace and Peace to all the saints. I commend my fellow brother John for so eloquently stating the truth of God's Word. We have the full counsel of God's Word and we should never be ignorant or should we never be men pleasers. It is imperative that we be doers of His Word. Blessings to all. In His Arms, Jim ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:50:09 -0400 From: "Jonathan Sheldon" Subject: Re: [iona] Roger's "offending" statement . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi John, I decided to send this to you personally instead of the Iona list. I don't want to encourage off-list discussion any more than the previous three days have :-) . Can you send me a list of scriptures which explicity condemn homosexual behavior and lifestyle? I've been meaning to comb the scriptures for them. I know that in Romans 2 Paul implicity condemns homosexual behavior with verses that go something like this: "Giving them over to unnatural lusts, so that men burned with desire for other men" etc. Thank you so much for your help in these matters! Jon >>> 05/12 12:55 PM >>> . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ James wrote: >I thought Walter just said this was off topic? >And if you want to discuss why your post shows a rather arrogant approach >and a shallow interpretation of scripture, I'd be happy to discuss it >privately. > >James. I feel the need to post this to the list because of the fact that the last post I recieved made some very condescending comments toward theologically conservative Christians and to leave that negative implication toward those who are theologically conservative would, to me, be tantamount to agreeing with the comment. While I agree that the post was off topic, I DO appreciate the scriptural accuracy of Roger's stance on the subject of homosexuality. With all due respect to those who do not profess Christ on this discussion list, if we are going to talk about scriptural stances on issues, lets remember that Jesus didn't stone the adulterous woman, BUT HE DID tell her to SIN NO MORE. The scriptural stance on homosexuality is not to condone the act or the lifestyle. In fact, it is to oppose the act and the lifestyle, but not to abuse the practicer. I, too, have many homosexual friends, but they don't think I hate them because I disagree with their lifestyle. To imply that theologically conservative (read: literal interpreters of Jesus' commands) are "arrogant" and have a "shallow interpretation of scripture" is to imply that Jesus didn't mean what He said. Maybe a good reading of Dietrich Bonhoeffers "Cost of Discipleship" might be in store. Or maybe simply read about his life or the lives of any of the apostles or early church fathers. I think you will find that they (and, yes, Jesus too) would agree that you don't stone someone living in sin (in this case a homosexual), but that you don't imply that it is an acceptable way of life by not speaking out against the common acceptance of it (which is what this ad would promote by making it appear to be "normal", if you will). That being said, my intention here is not to upset or offend list readers. I beg your humble forgiveness if I have. I am simply passionate about scriptural accuracy and living a truly Christian life by the grace of God. May God truly bless you all! - -John ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:27:25 +0200 From: Walter Aresca Subject: [iona] *** Last warning *** . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Ok guys, this is the last warning I'm sending about topic and off-topic messages. I will no longer tollerate messages like the last one you posted!!!!! Thank you to you... and sorry to those who received unwanted messages. - -- Walter Aresca mailto:musictus@musictus.com Webmaster @ musictus.com, gospel.it, gratis.it The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:13:31 +0200 From: Hans Nijntjes Subject: [iona] [Iona] Who of you all will I meet in London ? . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ (I hope this message isn't too much off-topic and that Walter will not wipe out this posting) Hey you all ! Still preparing now for the journey to London next weekend, I only need some tickets for the Tube. But I was wandering how many of you at this list will also come to London. Perhaps we can make an appointment at one of the bars in the Royal Festival Hall. If this message is too off-topic we can mail each other outside this list. I'm still wondering...... :-)) Hans BIGRabbit (Hans) ICQ 3370358 ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V1999 #25 **************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html