iona-digest Friday, March 5 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 013 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:08:00 EST From: DBRDRCK@aol.com Subject: Re: [iona] Where to get albums... . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ The best place I've found to get any of the Iona Albums is from www.bigmusic.com Prices are reasonable and they have all the projects listed in their catalog. BTW just for information sake Maire Brennan's first name is not spelled Marie and it's pronounced Moya. Good luck Denny dbrdrck@aol.com ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:48:35 -0600 From: In Box Subject: [iona] Celtic Christianity and Iona . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ First off, "Hi!" to Liam! I know all about your bent towards violence and am not surprised that it has been passed on to your son! What a guy! What a Celt! Jon asked about Celtic Christianity, the bedrock upon which Iona has supposedly structured their music. (I say "supposedly" because the content of early Celtic spirituality is somewhat open to debate and interpretation.) Back in 1996 I read an article in a theological journal which suggested that Celtic Christianity would become the "flavor of the month" for North American Christians. It certainly seems that has happened in certain circles. However, like some waters, it has turned out for many to be miles wide, but inches deep. Not a lot of substance, but very pop. Like you, Celtic Christianity has had a major impact on my spirituality. Not so much from Columba and Brendan and the other saints, but from those who worked out in detail what the Church in isolation held. Folk like Pelagius and Eriugena codified much of Celtic theology. They have helped me to see what the Church was like before the influences of Calvin and, before him, Augustine. If anyone is interested in pursuing this further, let me suggest that you go to Liam's website. He includes some excellent links to follow for further information. "The Foolish Cross" http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6389 If you want to see a picture of Liam (and me!), check out Litter's site at http://members.aol.com/litterali/WS/LitsPage.htm Litter, who is based in Scotland, has a great selection of other CC documents, including some of his own excellent, CC-inspired poetry. One of Liam's links is for the Celtic Christian Mailing List. This is a very respectful, tight-knit "family" who have been discussing a wide range of issues, mostly related to CC. Instructions are given at the Celi-De site on how to subscribe. If you want to bypass Liam (but why would you do that?), you can go directly to Celi-De via: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2539/ Liam's site is also a member site of the Celtic Christian Webring, which you can gain access to from links at the bottom of his opening page. Be warned, however, that not everything which claims to be Celtic is, nor is everything which claims to be Christian. Blessings, Paul ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:00:54 -0500 From: "John Kreuz" Subject: Re: [iona] Where to get albums... . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ The correct address for Big Music is www.glasscity.net/user/bigmusic. John ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:47:05 -0500 From: ussgreen@worldpath.net Subject: Re: [iona] Where to get albums... . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Jonathan Sheldon wrote: > > . _ _ _ > |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com > Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ > _______________ > > www.columbiahouse.com has some of there older stuff, "Book of Kells" and > "Beyond These Shores". However, much to my chagrin, they do not have Iona, > there first album. Does anyone know if that one is out of print? I suspect > it is... > > Thought I'd share my fav Iona songs and such since I haven't posted to this > list in a while. My favorite Iona album is "Book of Kells" by only a smidge > over there other studio albums. I was introduced to Iona back in 1993 by > borrowing "Book of Kells" from a friend of mine. I had a hard time giving > it back to him :-) . BoK contains my number one Iona song of all time, > "Chi-Rho," and my favorite instrumental, "The Arrest - Gethsemane." The > Arrest haunts me with the imagery of the torment Christ went through in > Gethsemane. > > Initially I was a bit disappointed with "Beyond These Shores," I felt they > were allowing to many pop influences and straying from the rich, layered > instrumentation of BoK. However, BTS has grown on me and I've come to > realize it is layered in its own way and is just as rich as BoK. "Murlough > Bay" is my fav tune off that disc followed closely by "Edge of the World". > > "Journey into the Morn" is their most mature album of all and gives BoK a > run for the money in terms of being my favorite disc. "Everything Changes" > and "Divine Presence" rank as my favorite tracks from JitM. I really like > the Gaelic too! > > There's my quick little contribution. > > Now, to attempt to kick off a little discussion. Celtic Christianity. > What has caused the almost faddish nature of Evangelical Christians in the > US to idealize the Celtic flavor of Christianity? For some in the US, it > has become the icon of perfect Christianity. Is this the case elsewhere in > the world? Is it due to the integration of and blurring of the secular and > the sacred? (That is one of my own personal reason for idealizing it.) Is > it the unwavering and exemplar faith of Columba and Brendan and other saints > in the Celtic tradition? I am grateful to Iona for introducing me to Celtic > Christianity as it has challenged my own faith and pushed me to grow my > faith. Anyway, I'd be interested to know what you all think > > Jon > ______________ > To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com > In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona > or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html Maybe some of us just LIKE Iona. The intention wasn't to like 'Celtic' music but we just are drawn to it- the way we were drawn to Moody Blues, Kansas, Rick Wakeman, some Loreena McKennitt, certain classical works, and other 'ethereal' stuff- some popular & some not. I have never heard music that touches me the way Iona does. The question I have is--When I went to the UK in 96,97&98, I heard American country music. WHY? What a surprise. But maybe it's the same reason SOME Americans like Celtic music- it's different and they're going with the flow. Maybe, though, it fits them and they just like it. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:18:02 -0500 From: "John DeLaurentis" Subject: Re: [iona] Where to get albums... . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Beyond These Shores is definitely my favorite Iona album, too. Probably, my all-time favorite album as well. The songs "Bird Of Heaven," and "Beachy Head" are astonishing in their musical and lyrical beauty. In fact, "Beachy Head" just might be the most moving song ever written regarding the sad topic of suicide. Iona is one-of-a-kind. Thank God for them! In Christ, John D. in NJ,USA > >My personal favorite iona (and probaly my #2 all-time favorite album) is >beyond these shores. that album was really got me started with the celtic >scene. I am especailly fond of "Healing" and"tresure" and "Macharie >Moore" and, ah shuks, the entire album. =) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." - Vice President >Quayle, 11/30/88 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Aaron J Edwards -- clone316@juno.com -- ICQ# 15041909 > < http://members.tripod.com/~clone316 ><\\\> > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >______________ >To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com >In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona >or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html > ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:45:20 -0800 From: Aaron J Edwards Subject: [iona] beyond rules!!! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ >Beyond These Shores is definitely my favorite Iona album, too. >Probably, my >all-time favorite album as well. The songs "Bird Of Heaven," and >"Beachy >Head" are astonishing in their musical and lyrical beauty. In fact, >"Beachy >Head" just might be the most moving song ever written regarding the >sad >topic of suicide. Amen to that. I've always thought "Beyond these Shores" is not just my favorite Iona album, but one of my all-time favorite albums. Songs such as Burning like fire, Healng, Machrie moore, and the songs mentioned above just do something unexplainable in my soul. btw, I have to brag. I had the pleasure of seeing Mari'e Brennan in concert a couple nights ago and it was the best concert I have ever been to. She did some of her old stuff as well as some of her new stuff and some Clannad stuff and She had a full band complete with fiddle and irish bagpipes. whoa! Well, I've gotten a mailer-damion on the few posts I've made to the list so hopefully this one will go through :-) (I think I was using the wrong address, D'oh!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." - Vice President Quayle, 11/30/88 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron J Edwards -- clone316@juno.com -- ICQ# 15041909 < http://members.tripod.com/~clone316 ><\\\> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:01:03 -0500 From: "McMillen, Mark" Subject: RE: [iona] beyond rules!!! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Aaron wrote: > btw, I have to brag. I had the pleasure of seeing Mari'e Brennan in > concert a couple nights ago and it was the best concert I have ever been > to. She did some of her old stuff as well as some of her new stuff and > some Clannad stuff and She had a full band complete with fiddle and irish > bagpipes. whoa! > > All right, Aaron, how long are you going to keep saying "nyah, nyah" to the rest of the list! (Not that I'm jealous ;-) > Well, I've gotten a mailer-damion on the few posts I've made to the list > > Me too -- why is that? ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:07:27 -0600 From: In Box Subject: [iona] Celtic Christianity and Iona . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ First off, "Hi!" to Liam! I know all about your bent towards violence and am not surprised that it has been passed on to your son! What a guy! What a Celt! Jon asked about Celtic Christianity, the bedrock upon which Iona has supposedly structured their music. (I say "supposedly" because the content of early Celtic spirituality is somewhat open to debate and interpretation.) Back in 1996 I read an article in a theological journal which suggested that Celtic Christianity would become the "flavor of the month" for North American Christians. It certainly seems that has happened in certain circles. However, like some waters, it has turned out for many to be miles wide, but inches deep. Not a lot of substance, but very pop. Like you, Celtic Christianity has had a major impact on my spirituality. Not so much from Columba and Brendan and the other saints, but from those who worked out in detail what the Church in isolation held. Folk like Pelagius and Eriugena codified much of Celtic theology. They have helped me to see what the Church was like before the influences of Calvin and, before him, Augustine. If anyone is interested in pursuing this further, let me suggest that you go to Liam's website. He includes some excellent links to follow for further information. "The Foolish Cross" http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6389 If you want to see a picture of Liam (and me!), check out Litter's site at http://members.aol.com/litterali/WS/LitsPage.htm Litter, who is based in Scotland, has a great selection of other CC documents, including some of his own excellent, CC-inspired poetry. One of Liam's links is for the Celtic Christian Mailing List. This is a very respectful, tight-knit "family" who have been discussing a wide range of issues, mostly related to CC. Instructions are given at the Celi-De site on how to subscribe. If you want to bypass Liam (but why would you do that?), you can go directly to Celi-De via: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2539/ Liam's site is also a member site of the Celtic Christian Webring, which you can gain access to from links at the bottom of his opening page. Be warned, however, that not everything which claims to be Celtic is, nor is everything which claims to be Christian. Blessings, Paul ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 06:56:00 -0800 From: "Charles Crossley, Jr." Subject: [iona] Some Say They Belong To BTS, Others Say They Belong To JITM. . . . . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ . . . and others say they belong to Iona. . . I remembered first hearing Iona off a demo tape of their first album, "Iona," in a Christian bookstore in Ventura. I liked the songs but was disappointed with the production. I didn't buy that album then. Later, when I read about TBOK in CCM Magazine, I decided to buy that. I was amazed, and listened to that album over and over. Then came BTS, and I loved that album off the bat with its sweeping instrumentals that led into such beautiful songs as "Treasure" and "Today." I especially love the song "Today." I loved JITM, but at first I preferred BTS over JITM. HBS, though, caused my regard for JITM to grow. Now I hold BTS and JITM equally. During the sabbatical, I visited the Big Music site and ordered "Iona." Despite not having the clean sound of the other albums, the songs and the musicianship captivated me, especially since having heard many of them on HBS. Currently, I find I'm playing JITM more than the other titles, but the entire catalog continues to be amazing. Although Jeff Johnson usually does not satisfy me, I found "Psalmus" to be another good album, and I recommend it to anyone on this list. Charles Crossley, Jr. Oxnard, CA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:54:15 +0100 From: Andreas Ottosson Subject: Re: [iona] beyond rules!!! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ "McMillen, Mark" wrote: > > Well, I've gotten a mailer-damion on the few posts I've made to the list > Me too -- why is that? > Hmm, I've noticed the same behaviour... Walter is there something you have changed... The reply-to points to musictus@musictus.com where the header of the body says musictus@musictus.com. Which of them is the correct one.... does it matter? Best Regards, Andreas ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V1999 #13 **************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html