iona-digest Wednesday, January 27 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 005 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 05:19:46 -0800 From: Jason Savoie Subject: [iona] a correction for Ron Lindeboom . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ To Ron Lindeboom: Hi Ron! I think you made a mistake... At 06:25 PM 1/25/99 -0800, you wrote: >(Jason Savoie found the same thing out when he tried to do >something to promote the band.) You got my name correct. I did use to post a lot on the old list. But I think you got the wrong Jason. I forget his last name, but he had some sort of unofficial site for Iona. I had some pictures on my site of Iona, but I'm sure you're thinking of that other Jason. No big deal though. :-) Jason Savoie ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:08:53 +0100 From: Hans Nijntjes Subject: [iona] Vote for Christ (fwd) - Iona off-topic . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Please do not reply, just pass it on ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Vote for Jesus Christ Time Magazine is allowing us to vote for Time Magazines Person of the Century,which will be in their December 1999 issue. I propose that we can vote for Christ. Each of us knows at least 1 person with email. CONTACT THEM. Pass this on to everyone you know. Let's start a wave of votes for Jesus Christ- Person of the Century.To vote go to: http://www.pathfinder.com/time/time100/toppersonmain.html When you get to the site you must write Jesus Christ in exactly this way. Upper case J, Upper case C and all the rest lower case. Apparently the poll is case sensitive and writing it any other way does not allow your vote to be counted as Jesus Christ. Remember to PASS THIS ON to everyone you care about. P.S. From what I heard the winner of the poll will have their picture on the front cover of the magazine in Dec 99, which should be a challenge for the graphics dept at TIME!!! God bless you BIGRabbit (Hans) ICQ 3370358 ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:30:00 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Blades Subject: [iona] Iona Are A Pain In the Butt! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ In the midst of all this you-did-this, you-did-that in-fighting, I would like to raise the point that a lot of these problems are caused by, as another subscriber put it, Iona not being very...erm...what ever the ooposite to proactive is (antiactive?) about the WWW. I edit the UK prog webzine Alternate View. I rate Iona as one of the better prog bands around, and definitely at the fore of Celtic rock, folk-rock, folk-prog or whatever. I'm not religious at all - I appreciate Iona for their music and the ambience they create. I have tried to make contact with the band to promote them on the web, in the same way that I do for many other bands - and I get no response at all. Okay, there are load of unprofessional, arrogant or just plain badly organised bands around who don't take the opportunity for some free publicity - Iona are just another band who fall into one of those categories (and as I have never dealt with them, I will reserve judgement on which!). This was no more evident when Heaven's Bright Sun was "released" and I had distributers asking ME how they could get the album. I mean, what is the point...? In Revenge? Well, I haven't subscribed to their Newsletter. I believe information like this should be made a freely available as possible for the bands good - and for the music genre (prog OR Christian, it makes no odds to me!!!). They can claim the costs involved means they have to charge - but as we all know, information distribution on the web is pretty much free. This means that I have to rely on the e-mailing list for ALL my Iona news - and I will tend to steal whatever information I find there and use it in Alternate View (with full credits, of course!) in the hope that it will get through to more people. So, I guess what I am saying is that if the band can't get off their collective butts to help the fans, then the fans should work together to share and disseminate whatever information we can get. So, I would appreciate it if someone who print the Iona Newsletter on the web or post it on the List. Certainly the other lists I am on - Spock's Beard, IQ, Porcupine Tree, etc - this happens. And if the band complain to you, then explain WHY you are doing it!!! Maybe it will get through to them that WE CARE even if they don't. This may be a slightly confrontational approach, but I'm afriad that's just the kinda guy I am, and surpisingly I only have a few "enemies" in the business:) - and a lot of friends who appreciate the time and effort I put into promoting the music. The other option is to ditch Iona as a waste of time... yeah right!!!! Frank ps And guys if you want an argument over who did what to whom, I find it is a lot more constructive to do it on a one-to-one basis! - ---------------------- Frank BladesEditor Alternate View http://listen.to/alternate.view ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:52:36 -0500 From: "Ryan Bowell" Subject: [iona] Miscellaneous . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Things seem to be heatin' up a bit. Let's all be civil now. I want to say that the thread about the fiddle and what Frank can bring to Iona are interesting. Those are the kind of discussions this group needs more of (in my opinion). I'm not sure I've ever heard a progressive rock band able to successfully integrate the sax (and have me absolutely love it) the way Iona has in the past. The violin/fiddle on the other hand has been mastered by Kansas and DMB (somewhat). I think Frank could bring a lot to the table with a new instrument and all. I can't wait!!!! My conclusion: both would be nice but you take what you can get I guess. I also see a lot of posts about Eden's bridge. I heard a interview/demo tape of their about a year ago and felt that the whole project was a bit contrived for me. It seemed "canned", if you know what I mean. Now, I only heard them once and maybe I didn't give them much of a chance. I want some feedback from other Iona fans as to their opinions. If this thread isn't connected directly enough to Iona then disregard or answer me directly. Finally, I have not seen much on this discussion group about any of the solo projects of Iona members or former members (i.e. Troy's "Unseen Stream", Terl's "Psalmus" Cd's, and Fitz's "Lux Aterna (sp?) or Columcille (sp?), or the CEW series). If anyone is looking for some good music to get them through until the next Iona album, these will more then enough meet your needs! I highly recommend these and would like to guarantee to refund your money if you don't like them but I can't do that (sorry). I would love to comment about the Eye of the Eagle project but I have not received my copy from big music (unsolicited plug) yet. Love you all, Ryan Bowell ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:06:06 EST From: Bregha1@aol.com Subject: [iona] Re: iona-digest V1999 #4 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ With all the discussion about upcoming albums, I'm really suprised nobody has said anything about Joanne's! According to Forefront (their US label) it is called "Looking Into The Light", and should be out here in the US on April 20th. I don't really know any other details yet. Brynn Welch Psalm 63:7 ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:41:21 -0600 From: DAN NANCE Subject: Re: [iona] Iona Are A Pain In the Butt! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Ah yes, words of wisdom from the ether! You have brought into the light (so to speak) a interesting point, one that IONA (and in fact, any band who is interested in growing a fan base) really should be aware of. The wonderfully adaptable web we humans have woven and loosely call the "internet", is a fine resource and is one that is very easily used. Iona would do well to broaden their presence. As an aside, however, it could very well be a case of lack of technical skill. But then, there is help available.........good job. Dan ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:01:58 -0500 From: BoydT Subject: [none] . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Dear Frank (Blades), I hear your frustration over Ionas' failure to meet your expectations regarding willingness to promote themselves, especially via the web. Is it possible that they do not share the same values that you have toward "promotion"? Perhaps it just not that important to them. I find myself wanting more information regarding the group, and if they are considering coming to the US for a tour (I would dearly love to hear them live), but I do not feel like I am entitled to know. I regard their music as a gift, and I trust that they are about the business of refilling their tanks in order to have the internal spiritual resources needed to create such deep words and sounds. Sometimes promoting oneself gets in the way of renewal (they seem to be such different modes). Just a few thoughts. In regard to the current back and forth on this listserve, I was getting tired of the bickering about who stole whos' thunder. Tim in New York, US ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:35:31 -0800 From: "Charles Crossley, Jr." Subject: [iona] Joanne Hogg's Upcoming Album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ In response to Brynn Welch: Forefront is going to release "Looking Into The Light"? That's great! I'll be looking forward to it. Charles Crossley, Jr. Oxnard, CA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:17:09 -0500 From: "Roger W. Jones" Subject: Re: [iona] The Forthcoming Album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Nic,Janet, etc. They DO still have keyboards, so I think that something could be sequenced, they do sequence some of their music any way, because when I saw them live in Va. Beach, Terl was listening to a click track on some of the songs and he would cue the guitar, and keys at certain parts of the songs...so it's possible to pull it off still. MIDI is a wonderful thing, my drums are MIDI at my church and I love 'em...if our bass player doesn't show, I have the ability to drop in a bass guitar progression layered with my kick drum...cool huh? I'm confident Frank can fill Terl's shoes, but I'm gonna miss his unique style...hopefully they'll sequence some drums while he's playing fiddle...of course Terl dazzled me, Frank probably will too! Roger - ---===:::><> Engage! Grafix/Roger out, hailing frequencies closed ---===:::><> Engage! "Roger W. Jones" Technical Illustrator NCI Information Systems 757-864-6271 fax: 757-864-6243 -------------------------------------=====:::::::::><> Engaged! Drummer for the Living Word Praise Band (on a Roland TD-7 double bass rig) \\<>< Join the AAA-AA ... American Association Against Acronymn Abuse Psalm 33:3 Collector of Redlines, more valuable to me than gold pressed latinum! IBM stands for I Buy Macintosh ...duh! Jean-Luc Picard "still as intimidating as ever" in "Insurrection", go see it! ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:44:33 -0500 From: "Jason" Subject: [iona] Iona . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ List memebers... I think we all need to lighten up a bit on this you said, he said stuff. = Iona is a place for us not have to deal with that kinda stuff everyday = so let's not bring it here. I get enough of that crap in the "modern" = world. As for Iona and the Internet, I have a good source that basically said = that for the most part Iona isn't really putting a lot of time and = energy into the Internet right now. Phil takes care of the internet = stuff and keeping the info up. I think they would rather write and play = music instead of sitting in front a computer....me too..... Jason Williams www.mindspring.com/~caravanrecords (we have Mp3 of our artists now) ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:30:19 EST From: DVine73902@aol.com Subject: Re: [iona] The Forthcoming Album . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi all, I've always had mixed feelings about the sax. There are some places where they use it and it sounds appropriate (to me), and in others it sounds way out of place. However, that aside, I bet Troy could learn the sax in a month if he wanted to. It's not too difficult an instrument to learn. Cheers Dan Vine << With Mike leaving, does that mean there won't be anymore flute or saxophone playing in future albums or concerts? I still have yet to see Iona in concert, but I really enjoy the flutes and saxophones on the albums. >> ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:19:29 +0000 (GMT) From: James Stewart Subject: Re: [iona] Miscellaneous . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ On Wed 27 Jan, Ryan Bowell wrote: > I also see a lot of posts about Eden's bridge. I heard a interview/demo > tape of their about a year ago and felt that the whole project was a bit > contrived for me. It seemed "canned", if you know what I mean. Now, I > only heard them once and maybe I didn't give them much of a chance. I > want some feedback from other Iona fans as to their opinions. If this > thread isn't connected directly enough to Iona then disregard or answer > me directly. I have received four of the Eden's Bridge products (I believe that so far that's all of them) and agree that canned or contrived are good words for them. I found them to be celtic-lite, and rather weak on substance. The Christmas album is probably the best of the bunch, but they sometimes seem like a band to fill a record company roster rather than producing organic music. James. (if anyone wants to relieve me of the two Eden's Bridge CDs I still have, I'm looking to sell them so contact me direct) - -- James Stewart | The Britlinks | The Phantom Tollbooth james@britlinks.co.uk | http://www.britlinks.co.uk | http://www.tollbooth.org FreeState Festival -- http://www.britlinks.co.uk/freestate/ ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V1999 #5 *************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html