iona-digest Tuesday, December 9 1997 Volume 97 : Number 040 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 10:41:37 +0100 From: jamacare@juno.com (Jeffrey A Macare) Subject: iona Re: kicks butt . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Samantha, =09 How long have you been an IONA fan? What drew you to their music? What other bands do you like? I am always fascinated by the kinds of people that are captivated by this type of music. Being a musician I understand why other musicians would enjoy IONA (that's not to say that non-musician types wouldn't listen to this style of music), but I don't often find females that are fans of such music. UTM jam Jeff Macar=E9 ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 10:41:44 +0100 From: Dennis Reulbach Subject: iona Celtic Christmas album by "Iona" . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ I was searching the web for "Iona" (I wonder why?), and came across this link: http://www.shirenet.com/IONA/records.htm with the enticing message "The latest IONA album is a Celtic Christmas celebration. Tunes and carols from Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Isle of Man, Cornwall, Brittany and Galicia are woven together vocally and instrumentally." Then I remembered the discussion on this list, so I checked. As I suspected, it is not "our" Iona, but the U.S.-based band by the same name, from the Washington area. Either way, some of you may find it interesting to read about another Celtic band named Iona (I can't believe they *stole* the name ;-) ...). Fairly extensive site, too. Yours in Christ, Dennis =86=86=86 ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 10:41:33 +0100 From: B1BLancer Subject: iona Re: Chat room now on ICQ!!! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Zoa7 wrote: > The AOL Iona Lindisfarne chat meets Thursdays at 10 PM EST, we would like to > know how to get to the Sunday chat as well. Any insights???? To all those who are unfamiliar with ICQ, it is a chat program. You can chat with individuals as well as join chat rooms. To download ICQ (its free), go to : http://www.mirabilis.com/ There, you will be able to download ICQ, as well as find out everything you always to know about how to use ICQ and had no intention of asking. :-) The name of the Iona chat room is &Lindisfarne (the '&' is how ICQ differentiates between individuals and chat rooms), and the room ID number is 5657685. &Lindisfarne is listed in the Main Chat Directory under the headings : Entertainment - Music, Film, and TV Music Chat Rooms Other Styles & Movements One thing to keep in mind - during the hours of peak usage, the Main Chat Directoty is often very slow to respond, if it responds at all, so its best if you can keep track of the room name and ID. &Lindisfarne will meet Sunday afternoons at 2PM Eastern Standard Time, which is 1900 UTC, or 7PM London time. Hope to see you all there! - - David - -- "They shall mount up with wings, as eagles" Isaiah 40:31 "In a land that was dark, they followed the way, bringing sweet Light on an Irish day." from the CD "Heaven's Bright Sun" "Irish Day" Iona ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 10:41:28 +0100 From: "Roger.W.Jones" Subject: iona Celticgreen jpeg . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hey IONA fans, I have a question to pose to you, when I saw IONA at Kempsville Presbyterian Church in VA Beach this past Summer, I saw a t-shirt they were selling that was black with a bright emerald green Celtic Knot logo with IONA spelled out in the middle, being the graphic artist I am, I was intrigued by it and bought it right away. When my fiance saw it though she didn't know what all the animals were that are on it and WHAT do they signify. I'm curious does anyone out there know what I'm referring to? I've attached a jpeg document I got somewhere else, hope that's OK Walter! I believe that one of them is the Wild Goose (which is the Celtic symbol for the Holy Spirit), one kind of looks like a dragons head and one could be a goat lamb or wolf etc. I don't know for sure. The emblem is round and about 12' in diameter the Wild Goose is at 10:00, the "dragon-like" creature is at 2:00 and the other creature (lamb, wolf or goat) is at 6:00. Can anyone give me a definitive explanation to the symbology, so next time I wear it and get asked what does all this mean, I'll know more! God Bless, Roger J. ><> P.S. Thanks to Jason I now will own a Psalm CD! As stated in the intro message, there is no way to send attachments with this mail server. Interested people will contact Roger by private Email and he will send them the file. Thank you. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:36:47 +0100 From: "Charles Crossley, Jr." Subject: iona Re: Celtic Christmas album by "Iona" . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Dennis Reulbach wrote: >Either way, some of you may find it >interesting to read about another Celtic band named Iona (I can't >believe they *stole* the name ;-) ...). I have followed the music industry for many years, and it's strange that nothing has been done to establish the name "Iona" as legally belonging to one or the other music group. Charles Crossley, Jr. Oxnard, CA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:59:57 +0100 From: ANGLTRED Subject: iona Re: Celticgreen jpeg . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ < The emblem is round and about 12' in diameter the Wild Goose is at 10:00, < the "dragon-like" creature is at 2:00 and the other creature (lamb, wolf < or goat) is at 6:00. < Can anyone give me a definitive explanation to the symbology, so next < time I wear it and get asked what does all this mean, I'll know more! >> Some of the following are quotes from "Wisdom of the Celtic Saints" by Edward D. Sellner: "Wolf: A sacred totam of many clans in Europe during early medieval times, the wolf symbolized the virtues of bravey and strength as well as the principle of evil (a werewolf). Wolves figure prominently in the biographies of paganheroes, including the reputed founders of Rome, Remus and romulus, who were said to have been suckled by a she-wolf. Because wolves burrow in the earth, Native Americans associate them with secret wisdom and spiritual power. The stories of Maedoc of Ferns are filled with references to wolves." - --Maedoc of Ferns a/k/a Aidan or Mogue, was an Irish bishop, now Celtic saint, associated with the Irish monasteries at Fern in County Wexford, Drumlane in Country Cavan and Rosesinver in Country Leitrim. Maedoc's closest friend was Columcillea and Ita of Killeedy was a colleague and he was an ardent admirer of the saint Brigid of Kildare. You should read his story sometime--absolutely fascinating (as are the stories of all the celtic saints!) The specific symbolic meaning of the sheep and goat, I do not know. However, I will quote the following, which should shed some light on the importance of animals as symbols in celtic art: "....early tribes, living so close to nature, highly respected and revered animals and birds as 'tutors of humanity.' They were identified ith specific qualities and adopted as tribal totems and personal mentors. they symbolize our intuitive powers and helping instincts; to befriend them or to allow them to befriend us to be guided by those powers and instincts. Among the pagan Celts bothwild and domestic animals were relied upon for food, clothing, transportation, and warmth. Animals of the hunt such as stags, boars, and bears are frequently depicted in art, while hunting itself was a ritual activity in which tribes called upon certain animals for their protection. Celtic literature is filled with references to birds, which were understood to be intermediaries between this world and the otherworld. Certain birds such as the owl and the dove were considered to have oracular abilities and prophetic powers. (This is clear in one of the stories of Brendan, who is guided on his voyalge by a bird who speaks to him.) The Celts were aware of the important contribution to human life of nature's creatures, and that is behind the many references to animals and birds in the Lives of the Celtic saints." Some of the more common animals and bird are: bee, boar, cow, crane, dove, fox, horse, otter, salmon, stag & wolf. Pulling her nose out of her book, ~~~Samantha ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:00:06 +0100 From: ANGLTRED Subject: iona RE: Brendan, Navigatio . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi, If anyone out there is interested, I thought I'd recommend the book "Brendan" by Frederick Buechner. He tells the story of Brendan in such a vibrant, entertaining, frollicing and often wonderfully irreverant way. It is not only enjoyable reading and very imaginative...reminded me a lot of books like the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Narnia Chronicles. After I read this book, it has give me a totally new perspective on Iona's Beyond These Shores. It was almost as if I were listening to the album for the first time, experiencing the music and the words for the first time--for that reason alone, it's worth reading the book! Also, does anyone know if a copy of Navigatio exists that has been translated into English? I have found that the University of Notre Dame published Navigatio, but it's in Latin and well, I don't read Latin! If anyone out there can give me a tip, I'd be VERY grateful! Especially after reading Buechner's "Brendan", which he based on Navigatio, I really want to read the original now! Thanks bunches. >From the one who can't keep quiet and has to send a posting every day ;-) ~~~Samantha ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:17:21 +0100 From: James Stewart Subject: iona Re: Bauchner and Pipes . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ >From: ANGLTRED >If anyone out there is interested, I thought I'd recommend the book "Brendan" >by Frederick Buechner. He tells the story of Brendan in such a vibrant, >entertaining, frollicing and often wonderfully irreverant way. It is not only >enjoyable reading and very imaginative...reminded me a lot of books like the >Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Narnia Chronicles. After I read this book, >it has give me a totally new perspective on Iona's Beyond These Shores. It >was almost as if I were listening to the album for the first time, >experiencing the music and the words for the first time--for that reason >alone, it's worth reading the book! I haven't been able to get hold of Beuchner's stuff from any UK bookshops, if anybody else has, please e-mail me. I'm still looking for someone to explain/describe the range of instruments that Troy uses when working with Iona. Cheers. James. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:17:22 +0100 From: "John DeLaurentis" Subject: iona Re: kicks butt . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ > How long have you been an IONA fan? What drew you to their > music? What other bands do you like? I am always fascinated by the > kinds of people that are captivated by this type of music. Being a > musician I understand why other musicians would enjoy IONA (that's not to > say that non-musician types wouldn't listen to this style of music), but > I don't often find females that are fans of such music. > > UTM > jam > > Jeff Macar I've been listening to Iona since their first album. A friend at church had told me about them (guess what?: she's female and a big fan), as she was with a vocal group touring in England. She had their debut album when it was released in England (a year before its State side release). I am a musician, so yes, the musicality of Iona does blow me away. Without doubt, Iona is my #1 favorite group. Their music is the best on the planet. Musically compelling, lyrically thought-provoking, Iona is simply astonishing. I always say, God always saves the best for Himself. My favorite album is "Beyond These Shores," though "Journey Into The Morn" is a close second. My favorite Iona song is "Bird Of Heaven," and I also love "Beachy Head," which I believe addresses the issue of suicide in the most powerful way I've ever heard. God bless, John ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:17:19 +0100 From: "Knauer, Rainer" Subject: iona Live in Bonn, Germany . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi, all, - --- lurk mode off --- ok, this is a bit late, but I didn't have e-mail access over the weekend, so ... Last Thursday we attended the Iona concert at the Brueckenforum in Bonn, Germany. Although it was very good fun as usually I've got some comments: The concert began one hour late (9 pm) due to heavy traffic around Cologne according to Joanne's first of many (!) stage announcements of the evening. She also stated that she remembered last year's concert at the same place. She was a bit surprised that this time the hall was seated. First 2 songs were Irish Day and Today, the latter one with full drumset instead of the yellow plastic bucket Terl banged last year. Don't recall the complete set list - sorry. Commercial time: As Joanne announced the next title Troy asked "Isn't this on the new album?" - Joanne: "Yes." - "Where can we get that album?" - "Somewhere out there, I think." They repeated this question/answer game later on. The audience had a good laugh... Some more songs later Joanne said (she was very communicative this evening...) that the band hasn't been together for a few months now and therefore it was time now for one of the longer pieces - Encircling! During the first half they had serious problems with the sound, especially the bass (or low keyboard) sound. They were a bit nervous also but then it was the first show of their German tour. I Will Give My Love An Apple was the last song before the interval during which they played excerpts from Terl's 2nd album over the PA. Highlight of the 2nd set was without any doubt Bi-Se ... pt. 2 (13/8)! The Reels reminded me somewhat of the Horslips - anyone out there still remember them? Closing time was 11:30 pm - all in all a very satisfying show. This is what the paper said (General-Anzeiger Bonn): "Celtic-Rock with Iona Sometimes they sound somewhat as if the old guys from Genesis had expanded their equipment with bagpipes. Celtic folk rock band Iona electrified the audience at the well attended Brueckenforum with songs from their new CD Journey Into The Morn. The enchanting clear voice of Joanne Hogg along with the band creates a wonderful and mystic mood." - ------------- schnipp -------------- A hint for all you Celtic music lovers: There's an excellent album called Moonchild out by the new band Celtus. Give it a try. Released on Sony S2 label. Best wishes Rainer rknauer@kbv.de - ---- lurk mode on ---- ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:17:16 +0100 From: "Roger.W.Jones" Subject: iona Re: Celticgreen jpeg . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Sorry, I must have deleted your intro message before reading, that happens sometimes. If you care to re-send it, I'll be glad to look it over. RogerJ. ><> RogerJ, and FYI list subscribers, here is the intro message! 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Example: To: musictus@musictus.com From: Subject: Body: unsubscribe iona-digest To send a message to the list, so that it will automaticaly sent to all subscribers you must send it to: musictus@musictus.com The moderator. Walter Aresca musictus@musictus.com ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:17:18 +0100 From: Rob Cotterill GNET 821 4614 Subject: iona Re: Celtic Christmas album by "Iona" . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ =>(I can't =>believe they *stole* the name ;-) ...). = =I have followed the music industry for many years, and it's strange that =nothing has been done to establish the name "Iona" as legally belonging to =one or the other music group. Hey guys, remember that Iona is the name of a small island off the coast of Scotland, and also of a monastry established on that island. I think that they might be a wee bit upset if anyone stopped them using the name of their own island for reasons of copyright infringement... be well, rob (the ergonomist). ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V97 #40 ************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html