iona-digest Monday, December 1 1997 Volume 97 : Number 038 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:46:06 +0100 From: Reid.Bowers@lawrence.edu Subject: RE: iona Random thoughts on recent events . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ >"Most of the classical writers were Christians" >Really? You mean people like Mozart (general debauchee), Tchaikovsky >(homosexual), Wagner (racist), and all the other drunkards and >womanisers whose offences I cannot recall. >In fact many classical composers' lifestyles would offend many >Christians. Does that mean their music is offensive and unacceptable? >Is it dishonoring to listen to the Symphonie Pathetique or Eine Kleine >Nacht Musik? Dear everyone, First and foremost I would like to say that their is an awful lot of bickering on this list. To the Christians on the list, please be consistent with your beliefs and be patient with those whose beliefs differ from yours. Paraphrasing the Gospel, judge not lest you be judged and give you anger to God so that he who is worthy and perfect of vision may deliver just wrath. Second, I would like to state that Christian theology dictates that those who accept Christ are not perfect, only forgiven. Having homosexual desires, leading a debaucherous lifestyle, and being a Christian are NOT mutially exclusive. Such behaviors may make a relationship with God more difficult, but they do not invalidate a true faith. Lastly, on the subject of spirituality in Iona's music. It is true that Iona's music has incredible spiritual content and inspiration. This content adds another dimension to their music. If one does not appreciate this aspect, then one can still appreciate the great musicianship of Iona. Some can also listen to secular music without it impeding their walk with God. That is something that must be determined on a personal level. I listen to Iona because God speaks to me through the music. Others listen to Iona purely for its musical value. While I hope that others will be able to appreciate Iona for the reasons I appreciate them, I cannot automatically expect people to get out of the music what I do. What I do know is that if I tell someone they MUST appreciate it for what I appreciate it for, they probably won't. That said its off to dinner. Happy Thanksgiving for the Americans. Happy day for everyone else. >From a Dead Man, Reid Chrsitian Bowers Lawrence University Appleton, WI USA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:54:47 +0100 From: Roger & Gail Peck Subject: iona Concert schedule . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Greetings again, Can anyone tell me how to use the concert schedule? I found 7 dates listed & 8 locations. The dates are not attached to the locations. There is one concert in London that I am interested in attending. There is no phone number to call about it. Can someone please help me out here? Thanks. Roger Peck P.S. I have been on this list for two weeks now and find all this a bit fascinating. Some valuable discussion about Iona and a lot of foolishness. You can find complete concert diary at: http://www.gospel.it/iona/concerts.html ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:23:42 +0100 From: Walter Aresca Subject: iona "No discussion" . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 I wrote: >I want to have a list where content is more important over the number of >posts. This list is called Iona and need to be ONLY Iona centered. No >questions, no discussions. Therefore I decided to change the policy of the >list to a moderated one. Thanks to Dennis Reulbach (God Bless you Dennis!) I realized today my words could have been misunderstood! I meant by this "no OFF TOPIC discussions" and not "no discussions at all". Sorry to those who might have been offended by this! -- Walter Aresca mailto:musictus@musictus.com Musictus <>< Italian Gospel Music Piazza I Maggio, 1 I-14047 Mombercelli, Italy http://www.musictus.com/ ICQ# 1612620 _________________________________________random quote___________ See you at Asti-Gospel '97, the biggest Gospel Festival in Italy Dec, 20-21-22-23 - http://www.musictus.com/astigospel/ ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:23:47 +0100 From: pmsh1 Subject: Re: iona Side Projects . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ I don't think anyone's mentioned the 'Loose Goose' project which members of Iona helped with (notably Terl), which is a worship album with a Celtic touch. It came out over here (UK) last year in the autumn, and was done chiefly by the worship leaders of Holy Trinity Brompton(I could be wrong about the name of the church). Glad the ugly stuff has died down a bit of late, it was getting me down. Aren't Iona great?! Love in Christ, Paul Hewitt pmsh1@ukc.ac.uk ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:23:45 +0100 From: "Nainby, Andrew" Subject: iona RE: IONA in Germany ? etc . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ >"I am a brit living in Germany for 1 year I love Iona and saw a place >called the jazzhaus in freiburg near me are advertising Iona on the 9th >of december this year. Is this the Iona this list is about - you know the >good one cause it seems a little strange them touring germany in their >sabbatical year ...." As I understand it, Iona's Sabbatical Year is 1998 - ie starting *after* the German Tour. The gig dates published in FoI Newsletter are: Dec 4: Bruckenforum, Bonn Dec 5: Christmas Rock Night, Enneptal (with other artists) Dec 6: BH Sonnenhof, Weyerbusch Dec 8: Hirsch, Nurnberg Dec 9: Jazzhaus, Freiburg Dec 11: FBZ, Braunschweig Dec 12: Schwarzbachhalle, Kriftel/Frankfurt For further info contact Pila Music on (Germany) 07157 56430 >"Tell me more about the "Tales from Mt. Zion", this is the first I've >heard of it." I think this was Jeffrey's speculation at what an Ionic equivalent of "Tales from the Topographic Ocean" might be - certainly a magnificent panorama of sweeping sound. Andrew Nainby ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:40:42 +0100 From: Clive Hayball Subject: Re: iona Concert schedule . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Roger & Gail Peck wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to use the concert schedule? I found 7 dates > listed & 8 locations. The dates are not attached to the locations. There > is one concert in London that I am interested in attending. There is no > phone number to call about it. Can someone please help me out here? The dates seem to appear across the top of the table - very confusing. The German dates are all during December 1997. The London concert is tentatively for May 1999 and is NOT confirmed. ****************************************************************** * Clive Hayball Next Generation Products, * * Nortel plc (Harlow Labs.), * * London Road, * * Harlow, U.K. * * Tel. (01279) 403707 ESN 742 3707. * ****************************************************************** Thank you Clive for reporting the mistake on the year and the bug in the code. I suppose you use Netscape as IE looks fine. I fixed the source bug and will update the server at next connection. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:57:37 +0100 From: James Stewart Subject: iona Side Projects . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Dennis Reulbach wrote: >> Now I'm possibly missing some things but the projects I know of are: >> Terl Bryant - Psalm >> Terl Bryant's Psalm - Beauty... As Far As The Eye Can See >> Dave Fitzgerald - Columcille >> Dave Fitzgerald - Lux Aeterna > Add to your list: > (1) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. I - "Be Thou My Vision" > (2) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. II - "The King of Love" Oh yeah, forgot these. I have the second one. How does the first one compare? >> Did Treasures contain any new songs? > NO. Treasures only contains the "greatest hits" fro the 1st three > albums. Have not seen in in the U.S., but I'm sure you can find it in > the U.K. if you want to go that route. One thing about it: it has a > GREAT cover! If it doesn't have anything new I won't bother with it. For anyone who's interested, I wrote to Dave B about my history project on 'Reaction To The Synod Of Whitby' and he has replied with a list of books which he recommends, e-mail me privately if you want a copy of the list. James. - -- James Stewart - james.stewart@charis.co.uk The Britlinks http://www.jesusfreak.com/britlinks/ The Phantom Tollbooth (Associate Editor) http://www.tollbooth.org - -- 'The days they rattle past me, like a tunnel round a train/Landscapes and heartaches, I don't know what I feel/All I know is my condition is worse than I can tell/The small talk and the slow burn and I just wanna get healed' - Mark Heard ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:58:01 +0100 From: "Charles Crossley, Jr." Subject: Re: iona Heaven's Bright Sun . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Roger W. Jones remarked: > I have everything that IONA has ever done except the solo projects, don't >know where to find them yet, I don't recall a "True Tunes" though! TrueTunes is not the name of an Iona project. They are an online source for various contemporary Christian artists, such as Iona, that are hard to come by. Searching their catalog, they offer all of Iona's albums, both of Terl Bryant's solo projects, as well as an import version of "Beauty As Far As The Eye Can See," but none of David Fitzgerald's projects. TrueTunes is located at: http://www.truetunes.com/ However, there is another source that has everything that's Iona-related: Big Music. I recall the person who runs it (John Kreuz?) subscribed to the old list and may even subscribe to this list. They have all the Iona titles, both of Terl Bryant's projects, both of David Fitzgerald's projects and a few other related albums. Big Music, as someone else sent recently, is located at: http://www.glasscity.net/users/bigmusic/ I recall other people who have recommended Bryant's and Fitzgerald's projects on this list before. Perhaps some would like to share again? Charles Crossley, Jr. Oxnard, CA ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:56:16 +0100 From: Jason Savoie Subject: iona Re: Chat room on IRC or ICQ or ?? . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ David wrote: "The only question is where do I put the room. ... If we go with IRC, which network?" David, my vote is for IRC and possibly Undernet. The mIRC program is easy to obtain from Shareware.com, and it is easy to install and use. A while back, I created a channel called "Iona" on Undernet--just for fun--and found it already in use--on that particular day anyway. Those on the channel never heard of the band, but after I talked to them about Iona, they seemed interested. The channel was created by them after the name of the island. Jason Savoie ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:33:13 +0100 From: Dennis Reulbach Subject: iona Re: Side Projects . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ James Stewart wrote: > > (1) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. I - "Be Thou My Vision" > > (2) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. II - "The King of Love" > Oh yeah, forgot these. I have the second one. How does the first one > compare? The first is fairly similar to the second, so if you like the 2nd you will also like the 1st! Both albums are instrumental, though they include the lyrics. The sound is more "folksy" than Iona, and uses traditional instruments a lot. Lots of uillean pipes and various whistles, excellent guitar works, fiddle, etc. Not much synth. > For anyone who's interested, I wrote to Dave B about my history project > on 'Reaction To The Synod Of Whitby' and he has replied with a list > of books which he recommends, e-mail me privately if you want a copy of > the list. What is the "Synod of Whitby"? If this is too off-topic, Email me personally. Yours in Christ, Dennis +++ ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:15:54 +0100 From: B1BLancer Subject: iona Re: Chat room on IRC or ICQ or ?? . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ In regards to the Iona chat room, so far the vote has been heavily in favor of ICQ, so unless that changes dramatically in the next few days, that's where it will be. Stay tuned for information on exactly under which categories the room will be located. I DO know that I will, with everyone's approval, call the room Lindisfarne for a few reasons. 1) Because I really like that song and it has some special meaning to me. 2) Because I think its easier to keep one name between ICQ and AOL rather than have to remember 2 names. 3) Because Jill thought of it first and it's easier to steal it from her rather than think of a new one! :-D 4) Because Jill is too far away from me to slap me for stealing her name! God be with you all, David I also use ICQ but found Peoplelink uses less resources on the PC (and Mac) and being faster on the connections. I suggest you guys to try it. http://www.peoplelink.com/v1/musictus ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:16:05 +0100 From: Jon Newswanger Subject: iona A Christmas Album? . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Has anyone ever heard rumors of the band doing a Christmas album? Not that I have, but I've recently pulled out the Christmas CD's, including a new single from Enya with a gaelic cover of "Silent Night," and thought, "wouldn't it be great if Iona had a Christmas CD?" - -Jon === *********************************************************** * Jon Newswanger * I press on toward * * ESL Instructor * the goal... * * Western Mennonite School * Philippians 3:15 (Paul * * Salem, OR * must have been a forward) * *********************************************************** Go USA/PIONEERS/MOLDOVA/CREW/FC CZ JENA/FC METZ/GERMANY ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:16:04 +0100 From: Lee Halbert Subject: iona Nick Beggs . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Nick Beggs now has his site up and running, he mentions that he would love to work with Iona again, and he also considers Book of Kells and Beyond These Shores to be the best music he has recorded. http://www.nickbeggs.demon.co.uk/holding.htm Lee http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~leehal/ ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:15:55 +0100 From: "S. Ross" Subject: iona Story Behind JITM. . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Clive Hayball wrote: >My choice would be "Journey into the Morn". This song speaks of >the wonderful transference from this world to the next which every >christian believer will experience someday. >"Leaving the past, heading for more than our hearts can imagine, >the final reward". >I believe the song was written as a tribute to someone close who died. To Clive and the others on the list, I, too, think JITM is a appropriate choice for a funeral.(I thought it a pity they didn't use it at Lady Diana's service.) Thought you might be interested to know the story behind Journey Into The Morn. I've been in contact with Cindy Spear Polley (the lyricist) and she has told me that she wrote the lyrics after being inspired by listening to Iona's 'Book of Kells' album and with the concept of eternity. (The song has also been used by the Irish Famine 150 Commemmoration Committee in a video that commemmorates the Irish famine victims in Canada.) Inside My Heart, too, was written after listening to Iona's 'Iona' album. The words were not written about anyone in particular; however there is a special significance attached to the song by Joanne. The full story is available at the website: http://www.mindspring.com/~iona/cindy.htm There you will also find out more information about Cindy and her background with Iona. Steve in Australia. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:15:57 +0100 From: djwilliams@mindspring.com (Jason Williams) Subject: iona Me and the Iona Site . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hey all, This is Jason. I run the US Iona website. I havent been posting lately, because I have been busy with my own projects. But I would like to make some statements. I think that it's alittle stupid for people to attack or make fun of ANYBODY on this list. I dont think IONA would like it very much either. The point of music is to bring us closer together by connecting us through music & words. Wheather you are a Christian or not, the music can feel the same, or sometims NOT it depends on your heart or what you are going through at the moment of listening. This is really I wanted to say about this..so everyone kinda chill out and just enjoy Iona, cause if IONA knew what was going on here, they might not do ANY web stuff....(somthing to think about)... Jason Williams www.mindsping.com/~iona "let us proclaim the connection to the higher heart, along the traveling winds led us beyoun with love..." ej ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:43:17 +0100 From: ANGLTRED@aol.com Subject: iona Re: Side Projects . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ > > (1) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. I - "Be Thou My Vision" > > (2) Celtic Expressions of Faith vol. II - "The King of Love" >> Hi, I'm brand new to the Iona list. What is this "Celtic Expressions of Faith"? I'm definitely interested to hear more. Thanks. ~~~Samantha ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:43:24 +0100 From: Johannes Koch Subject: iona Re: Side Projects as best as I know . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi John On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, John Kreuz wrote: > > Adrian Snell-"City of Peace Part 1 and 2" feature David Fitzgerald, "Alpha > and Omega" feature Joanne Hogg also Dave Bainbridge and David Fitzgerald (on A&O) I think David F. also plays in Adrian's "Song of an exile" - --- Johannes Koch http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~koch/ ILR (Institute of Aerospace Engineering) TU Berlin, GERMANY IRC-Nick: Waldbaer on #ixthys * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * In te, Domine, speravi; non confundar in aeternum. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:52:44 +0100 From: "Nainby, Andrew" Subject: iona RE: A Christmas Album? . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Jon, An interesting thought, not least because whilst watching Songs of Praise last night I had a similar idea. However, I don't think Iona's style particularly lends itself to Christmas music. On the other hand, I could envisage an album of traditional and mediaeval Christmas music by Dave Fitzgerald, particularly in collaboration with someone like Sal Solo. And Jo would certainly be a candidate for vocals. There are a couple of tracks on Lux that have that sort of feel. Regards, Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Newswanger [SMTP:joncn@rocketmail.com] > Has anyone ever heard rumors of the band doing a Christmas album? Not > that I have, but I've recently pulled out the Christmas CD's, > including a new single from Enya with a gaelic cover of "Silent > Night," and thought, "wouldn't it be great if Iona had a Christmas > CD?" ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V97 #38 ************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html