iona-digest Wednesday, November 19 1997 Volume 97 : Number 032 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List (digest) http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:48:25 PST From: "Roger Wyatt" Subject: iona Roger Wyatt injury report . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Brethren, I am in need of your prayers. For those who might not know, on the 15th of September of this year I was involved in an automobile accident which severely injured my right foot(the metatarsal bone behind the big toe was broken & dislocated). Although surgery to pin the bone back in place until it could heal was apparently successful, x-rays taken on my check-up today (Monday) revealed that the bone had "subluxed" or dislocated again. At the moment I am in no great discomfort, and if it does not cause me pain before my next check-up, my orthopaedist is inclined to leave things as they are. Should surgery prove necessary however, it would involve fusing the entire metatarsal joint. My orthopaedist tells me this would keep me off my feet at least a good three months. As if this weren't enough, I am also presently unemployed. Needless to say, this is a source of great stress to me and my wife. What I request of you all is prayer...prayer for God's will for my life, prayer for wisdom for the doctor, prayer for self-discipline, employment I cand handle that'll meet our obligations...shucks, I wouldn't even be opposed to a miracle(even a little one!). Leslie & I would also welcome your cards, phone calls, emails etc. Thanks for caring..I'll be in touch. Shalom. Roger Wyatt email:rawyatt23@hotmail.com http://www.hotmail.com "O give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; For his lovingkindness is everlasting." -Psalm 118:1(NASB) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: DVine73902@aol.com Subject: Re: iona Re:Top 5/reply to Martin Dean . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi Martin, Greetings, fellow Greenbelter! I've been since 1992, and love it! High points have included: 1) Seeing Iona twice (they're GREAT in the open air) 2) Bruce Cockburn twice 3) Phil Keaggy (1994), who did an awesome power-trio concert! 4) Newsboys Cheers Dan PS Are you going this year?... > >Hi all, > >although not a cHristian I have seen a few christian bands in my time (10 >years of greenbelt) so I'll list five Greenbelt artist who I have enjoyed >over the years... > >1. Iona >2. Martyn Joseph >3. Kato (or K as they used to be known) >4. Ian Archer >5. PFR ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:03:48 -0500 (EST) From: DVine73902@aol.com Subject: iona Re: secular v. non-secular, backward masking, etc etc . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi all, I found Roger's post very interesting, on choice of music after becoming a Christian. My background is different - being a "preacher's kid", I've pretty much been a Christian all my life (and no, I'm not a Christian just cos my Daddy is one), so I can't point to a time when I had an explicit conversion experience (though i was baptised at 12). I had a fanatical aversion to all pop/rock music, fuelled by seminars on backwards masking (which I assumed to be true). My opinions have changed somewhat on this issue: whilst I know there are embedded messages in such music, I have yet to see any scientific studies that confirm whether the brain can decode them. Most of the seminars I've seen simply assert that it works, and leave it at that. (I'd love to hear if anyone has details of some studies). I never found any Christian contemporary music I actually liked until I was about 15, and I became a U2 fan, after hearing rumours that they're a Christian band (and yes, I LOVE the October album). But I still didn't find many other artists I particularly liked. Anyway, I also got into music composition, and i found that I'd listen to lots of secular music, just to find music I really liked... I even bought a few Led Zep albums; even though I abhor their occasional occultic innuendo and general pagan philosophy, it has to be said that musically they're phenomenal, and I learnt a lot about how to compose from them... Iona was a great surprise to me - they combine great music with the truth and power of God's Word, in a way that I hadn't seen before very often. My overall thought is that I like to perceive the value of all music, seeing as we're all made in the image of God (I think that Francis Schaeffer book is great too!). And we can benefit from it, so long as we listen prayerfully to everything... Thanx Dan Vine ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:48:13 +0000 (GMT) From: James Stewart Subject: iona Top Fives . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ I've decided to set a deadline of next Sunday for entries to this as there has to be a cut off somewhere. So far I have had 26 entries which is less than the number which have been sent to the list. Rich Mullins is still at the top, followed by Phil Keaggy and then Bach. Six artists share 4th place. Please send entries to me at this address. Entries have been received from the following people: Net indentities/first names: Born2Prayz@aol.com - Laura, aumc@bihs.net - Wes, Kendrck@aol.com, Song85@aol.com - Melanie, B1BLancer@aol.com, Jill in Dallas Full names: Charles Crossley Jr., Rick Davis, James Dooms, C. Curtis Engel Vaughan Granier, Clive Hayball, Hubert Jakobs, Trond-Vegar Johansen Mat Kerlin, Johannes Koch, Jonah Lin, Erik ten Napel, Jon Newswanger Paul Richardson, Nadine Rogers, Chris Staunton, Judah Stephens, James Stewart, Dave Taylor, Roger Wyatt My position on 'Iona only discussion' in regard to this top 5 list: I think that we should go along with however Walter wants things run on this list. I am trying to keep notes to the list with regard to this down to a minimum although I think that this sort of thing is inevitable in this forum. If people wish to discuss the final list when it's done, I will supply a full list of all those who've contributed and we can link up privately. I will post the findings to the list but after that we should really stop discussion of it here. James. - -- James Stewart - james.stewart@charis.co.uk The Britlinks http://www.jesusfreak.com/britlinks/ The Phantom Tollbooth (Associate Editor) http://www.tollbooth.org - -- 'The days they rattle past me, like a tunnel round a train/Landscapes and heartaches, I don't know what I feel/All I know is my condition is worse than I can tell/The small talk and the slow burn and I just wanna get healed' - Mark Heard ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:34:33 +0000 From: Lee Halbert Subject: Re: iona Top Fives . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ James Stewart wrote: > > > > Rich Mullins is still at the top, followed by Phil Keaggy and then Bach. > Six artists share 4th place. Is it just me or are Iona the only 'CHRISTIAN' band known to others ??? Top 5 ?? or Top 1 !!! Lee ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:20:24 -0800 From: Rick Davis Subject: Re: iona Everybody must read this, please! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Yes, I wrote last time that I would not change my settings only to find out like Roger, that I cannot. I never see the text of the message I am replying to in the reply, so I cannot strip off the header, even if I wanted to. Remember: You can't tell by how ya feel, how ya are. I hope the following isn't too religious for any of you. May the peace of the Father, and the love of the Son, and the power of the Holy Spirit encircle and enfold you, and keep you this day. Rick ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:44:50 -0500 From: B1BLancer Subject: Re: iona Lindisfarne chat on AOL . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Manish Daswani wrote: > Hi all, > Would anybody be interested in starting an informal chat about Iona on > http://chat.netcentral.net or anywhere else they can recommend?? > I'd like to participate in the AOL chat but I don't have an account..so > that's kind of a hinderance. Questions? Thoughts?? Count me in! I'd love to start am Iona chat room somewhere. How about IRC? - -- "They shall mount up with wings, as eagles" Isaiah 40:31 "In a land that was dark, they followed the way, bringing sweet light on an Irish day." from the CD "Heaven's Bright Sun" "Irish Day" Iona ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:03:37 +0100 From: Mark Goodge Subject: Re: iona Everybody must read this, please! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ At 09:20 PM 11/17/97 -0800, Rick wrote: > >Yes, I wrote last time that I would not change my settings only to find >out like Roger, that I cannot. I never see the text of the message I am >replying to in the reply, so I cannot strip off the header, even if I >wanted to. Er.... actually, you can. According to your headers, you're using Netscape: > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) It's in the options. I don't want to seem harsh, but I do think that if you want to participate in a mailing list, you really do need to understand how your software works so as to be able to keep to the list guidelines. Mark Mark ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:35:37 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: gill king Subject: Re: iona Top Fives . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:34:33 +0000 Lee Halbert wrote: Lee - I'm not sure if people count Runrig as a 'Christian' band but I would include them in my list, I think. It's so difficult cutting it down to five, but I think I would say: Rich Mullins Iona Bruce Cockburn Runrig Larry Gatlin Gill ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:08:58 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: gill king Subject: Re: iona Iona/top 5 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi Roger - Welcome to the group! I was interested in two items on your list. Having listened to John Michael Talbot for years, I bought the Michael Card/John Michael Talbot 'Brother to Brother' CD and couldn't get into it at all. I find it really strange hearing Michael Card singing JMT's songs and vice versa, so am interrested to know how much you like it. Perhaps I should give it another listen. I don't know Eden's Bridge at all - - can you give me more details of that? Thanks, Gill P.S. Glad to see Rich in the list! ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:08:58 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: gill king Subject: Re: iona Iona/top 5 . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi Roger - Welcome to the group! I was interested in two items on your list. Having listened to John Michael Talbot for years, I bought the Michael Card/John Michael Talbot 'Brother to Brother' CD and couldn't get into it at all. I find it really strange hearing Michael Card singing JMT's songs and vice versa, so am interrested to know how much you like it. Perhaps I should give it another listen. I don't know Eden's Bridge at all - - can you give me more details of that? Thanks, Gill P.S. Glad to see Rich in the list! ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:26:32 -0000 From: "Richard Stringer" Subject: iona Warning this mentions God . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ here we are talking about loads of different bands because Iona are going on sabbatical (no complaints even though they are not bands I would chose to listen to) and people are now complaining that people are talking about God. I'm sorry if thats hard but Iona are a CHRISTIAN BAND. That's the source of their inspiration, the subject of their lyrics is often taken from scripture ! I have not seen anything on this list that would be construed as *ramming religion down some ones throat*. Richard ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:36:40 -0500 From: Michael Phythian Subject: iona Warning this mentions God (off topic) . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ I am not aware that anyone has complained about too many God mentions - I= , even as an atheist, haven't. What has been complained about is getting of= f topic. As probably the only list member with regular personal contact with a ban= d member and thus a certain amount of 'news' to offer about band members I find the list has tilted towards general U.S. Christian music. The band still have a German tour to do, at least, before they rest up - if you ca= n call it rest when the likes of Joanne do things like head off for Nepal a= s she has been recently. Thats my few words off topic. Mick in York U.K. ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:03:01 +0100 From: Roger & Gail Peck Subject: iona help!! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Greetings, Forgive me if I'm messing up this discussion group. This is my first experience participating in something like this and am not sure how it works. I logged on to the Iona home page looking for their concert schedule. My wife and I are (Lord willing) planning a trip to Northern Ireland & UK to visit our daughter who moved there in September. It was my dream to be able to see Iona in concert somewhere over there. I have suddenly begun receiving all of your notes about Iona. Can anyone tell me for sure what they know about the sabbatical and when that will occur? As long as I am writing, I might as well give you my top five list: Phil Keaggy, Jeff Johnson, Iona, Margaret Becker & Bryan Duncan. They are not listed in order of preference; that changes with the mood of the day. Thanks for your help with the Iona schedule and for your patience with my new email experience. God bless, Roger Peck ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:02:54 +0100 From: Jilliemae@aol.com Subject: Re: iona Everybody must read this, please! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ In a message dated 97-11-15 05:56:28 EST, you write: << Am I the only one who is considering most of the last weeks messages "non Iona centered"? I don't think so as only this week 15 people unsubscribed from the list. >> Walter, you are not the only one! (and have a safe trip back from China!) Sorry to hear about the _tsauris_ we've been giving you! Everyone, let's keep the personal replies personal. Reply to that one indiv. (or tack on a few others who might be interested) when it's not something you think everyone (all over the world) would be interested in. (I'm guilty of this as well.) Has anyone in the USA received the latest Friend of Iona newsletter yet? Jill in Dallas ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:34:47 -0800 From: Rick Davis Subject: Re: iona Everybody must read this, please! . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Well, Mark Mark, Maybe you can clue me in a little more clearly. I have looked in the options and the view menus on this Netscape, and I DO see the headers in the original message (they are quite amazingly extensive), but I STILL DO NOT SEE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE IN THE REPLY. How does one perform this feat? And if you want, reply to me off the list at rdavis@intercenter.net . And, I must say I am glad you didn't want to be harsh. I'd hate to see you when you did. Remember: You can't tell by how ya feel, how ya are. May the peace of the Father, and the love of the Son, and the power of the Holy Spirit encircle and enfold you, and keep you this day. Rick Davis rdavis@intercenter.net ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:38:12 -0800 From: Rick Davis Subject: Re: iona Warning this mentions God . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Amen, Richard (oops!). And sorry for the extra headers, Walter. I still don't know how to get rid of them, but if I ever find out, I will eradicate them. Remember: You can't tell by how ya feel, how ya are. May the peace of the Father, and the love of the Son, and the power of the Holy Spirit encircle and enfold you, and keep you this day. Rick ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:44:44 -0500 (EST) From: TomBowcock@aol.com Subject: Re: iona Warning this mentions God (off topic) . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ Hi Mick, Thanks for your posting, always look forward to what you have to say !!. Please keep us up with all the latest news fresh from the horsemouth. Is there any further info on any of the following: 1) What are they going to do in the Years sabbatical - nothing ? 2) Is there any further news on the possibility of the Royal Festival Hall proposal (wht not Royal Albert ?) 3) What news regarding the next album 4) Any news about their official website ? A personal question now :- I just get a feeling (I can't place myfinger on why) that Iona are about to make a change in direction, and perhaps this sabbatical is partly to take stock of their position and make plans for the future. I may be totally wrong (well most probably totally wrong actually), but do you think that we will see a change in emphasis from the band, away from the overtly "Christian" music scene, and towards more secular tastes/emphasis ? I'm sure that you may not know the answer to these questions, but would be interested in any comments that you may like to make Cheers James ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:01:53 +0200 From: Bill Iles Subject: Re: iona Warning this mentions God (off topic) . _ _ _ |(_)| )(_| mailto:musictus@musictus.com Discussion List http://www.gospel.it/iona/ _______________ This would be speculation at best, dangerous (or worse) at worst. Bill. TomBowcock@aol.com wrote: > A personal question now :- > > I just get a feeling (I can't place myfinger on why) that Iona are about to > make a change in direction, and perhaps this sabbatical is partly to take > stock of their position and make plans for the future. I may be totally wrong > (well most probably totally wrong actually), but do you think that we will > see a change in emphasis from the band, away from the overtly "Christian" > music scene, and towards more secular tastes/emphasis ? > > I'm sure that you may not know the answer to these questions, but would be > interested in any comments that you may like to make > > Cheers > > James ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html ------------------------------ End of iona-digest V97 #32 ************************** ______________ To unsubscribe send an e-mail command to musictus@musictus.com In the body of the message type ONLY the following: unsubscribe iona-digest or visit http://www.gospel.it/iona/mailingl.html